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Posted in Beer on 2006-07-13 17:33
Getting good beer in Norway is hard, but possible; getting well-tempered beer in Norway is nearly impossible, unfortunately. Most pubs and bars will serve the beer at refridgerator temperature, which ranges from too cold to much too cold. The problem with this is that the taste of the beer is subdued, which means that a lot of the more subtle flavours become impossible to detect, and the main flavour is weaker.
To normal people this probably makes me sound like a real beer snob, and that's what I used to think myself a couple of years ago when I heard people talking about the importance of getting the temperature right. At the same time I used to notice that the same beers would sometimes have lots of flavour, and sometimes next to none, and I couldn't work out why. Eventually I realized that a lot of it had to do with the temperature. If you serve the beer too cold it will "flatten" the taste, and make the beer seem boring. The effect is strong enough that I think anyone who really pays attention to the aroma and taste will notice it.
So what's the right temperature, then? Well, normal people don't put thermometers in their beer, and in this respect I am decidedly normal, so I won't give you a number in Celsius. The rule of thumb in the beer community is that the beer should be at cellar temperature. This means noticeably warmer than in your fridge, and noticeably colder than room temperature. Letting the beer wait for 20 minutes after you take it out of the fridge works for me.
But what about if you get it served in a pub? I usually feel the glass with my hands. If it feels gently cool it's about right, and if it feels freezing cold I'll start ordering the next beer early so that it gets some time to heat up. Of course, being impatient I usually try to speed the process up by heating the beer with my hands. My girlfriend teases me for this, and keeps saying she's going to buy me a beer heater for Christmas.
I've been thinking about this, and a beer heater strikes me as an excellent idea. I'm thinking that the perfect design would be something like the Guinness surger (review), but using microwaves for heating instead of ultrasonic waves for releasing bubbles. The trick is to come up with a device that doesn't have to enclose the beer, but still heats only the beer, and not the drinker. I'll leave it for real engineers to figure out how to do that.
In the meantime, I think it's worth the effort to pay a little attention to the temperature of your beer. And needless to say, Guinness Extra Cold is for people who don't actually like Guinness.
JInie Min - 2006-07-14 17:48:51
Is it? Your stoty is quite interesting to me, because I love to drink cold(very cold) beer usually. I love its cool and icy taste. Hmm, but you mean it's not the real taste of beer, right? Next time I'll try to warm it and make its temp to the cellar temp. *^^* Thanks...
Lars Marius - 2006-07-15 15:17:11
Yes, too cold beer tastes less than it does at cellar temperature. Of course, for some beers that is good... :-)
Erde - 2006-09-01 08:35:28
Thats it Lars! Some beers cant be cold enough :) But its always better to have it a little to cold than to warm...
Luis - 2006-09-08 05:24:53
So, what is the right temperature in deg. F? I have to know the digits -- unless my brain sees the numbers, I cannot tell if something is cold enough or not. Thank you!
juk - 2006-12-10 11:14:26
Firstly, Guinness is not real beer. Real beer has Carbon dioxide not nitrogen. I like to group Guinness with those girly fabricated pre mixed drinks. Almost like a swedish (fake) cider.
Beer should be served cold, the colder the better, straight out of the ice box at 0-4 degrees C.
Over here in Australia we invented devices to help your beer stay cool during hot weather. Have you ever been in temperatures over 45 degrees with 100% humidity. Let me tell you that if you cracked a beer at 13 degrees C that within 10 minutes it would be closer to 30 degrees than 13. That's why it's served cold, and we've gotten used to it. In singapore they serve beer in a glass filled with ice, because nobody wants to drink beer at 30 degrees C.
Lars Marius - 2006-12-19 15:20:07
I would consider Guinness real beer, since it's produced by fermenting malts. But by CAMRA's (the British Campaign for Real Ale) definition of real ale, it's definitely not real ale. But beer and ale are not the same thing.
I can see why you would want to adjust my serving advice above when serving beer outdoors under extreme climatic conditions. :-) As you hint, it's not really the temperature of the beer when you pour it into the glass that counts, but the temperature of the beer when you drink it. And that will of course change over the time you spend drinking the beer.
But to drink the beer at 4 degrees doesn't work for me. That would have to be a beer I didn't like, and in that case I should be drinking water instead.
Svein - 2007-01-26 23:39:06
I couldn't agree more with you - most beer is served too cold. Cellar temperature I think will be 7-8 degrees and refers to a typical soil cellar.
George Shute - 2007-09-24 06:46:27
"Guinness Extra Cold is for people who don't actually like Guinness." That had me rolling! It's so true! A pilsner? Sure, that can be served @ 7-10°C. But anyone who loves Stouts and Porters should know that they are best served around 18-21°C, which is ~65-70°F. (sorry, I'm a yank. hope the °F to °C conversions are right) Personally, I enjoy my porter at room temp 24-25.5°C (75-78°F).
Guinness can rot. It's to Stouts what Budweiser is to Pilsners. An embarrassment.
Knut Albert - 2007-11-18 13:24:42
The thing about Guinness is that the brewers themselves are actively pushing chilling devices to make sure their product is served close to freezing. At the same time there are still a few pubs in the British Isles where the bottled beers are kept at room temperature...
Gartnteich Blogger - 2008-06-30 15:27:11
The right temperature of beer is near the zero celsius point. Yaeah
Steffen Wolff - 2008-11-04 07:06:25
I was born in a brewery, my family has been 150 years in this business. The right temperature for light beer as Pilsner, is 5 to 6' Celsius or 41 to 43 Fahrenheid. Guinness can be served at a little lower temperature. Dark beers are at 6 Celsius or 43 Fahrenheid right. It is frustrating to get an ice-cool lager in many restaurants, as it can't devellop a taste, it's "bad taste" English bitters and dark beers are serverd too warm in the summer months. They don't have the tradition of cool storage, as we on the continent. To get the best taste of a good lager, rinse the glass with water first, then pour in at the right temperature. Cheers!
Chuwy - 2010-01-03 02:02:24
Different beers are better served at different temperatures.
Whatever temperature you enjoy you beer at, I think the key point is that you enjoy your beer.
Here's hoping you ALL enjoy your beer!
Bebop X Lateef - 2010-10-19 22:57:04
WRT most beer and certainly any good ale, cellar temp is the best. But, WRT Guinness, you are WAY oFf mark. It is designed (brewed) to be had cold. There is no ambiguity here. Almost every pub in Ireland (including the rooftop pub at the Guinness brewery) have two Guinness taps – cold and extra cold. Cold is about the same temp beers are served in the U.S. Extra cold is tooth chilling. Guinness and the Irish are so insistent that it is had cold, that extra cold is for those who like to nurse a beer and want it to be cold to the last drop. Even in England, in all pubs, the beers are served cellar temp. Guinness is served very cold. Simply, if a beer does not taste good at cellar temp, it is not good beer. Guinness, though, is the exception. Simply put, it's the only good beer - great beer - that tastes best cold. It is brewed with this in mind. So drink great beer and drink it cellar temp. But if you want a real cold great brew, drink Guinness - my favorite beer. If you think that people who drink Guinness cold don't like Guinness, you better tell Guinness and every Irishman that!
Simen K - 2012-12-22 12:16:50
Thanks for this great post!
I'm currently trying to figure how to get my .75L Oude Gueuze Tilquin bottle in the right temperature. So leaving it, from the fridge, out in normal room temperature for 20 minutes should do it, you say? Since it is a bigger bottle, maybe 25 minutes.
Steve R - 2014-02-20 21:29:39
In reply to Steffen's comment about British bitters and dark beers being served too warm in the summer months, I would suggest that he has visited the wrong pubs! I have worked in the pub trade for over 20 years and most cellar temperatures should be between 6 and 8 degrees (even in the summer) while coolers ensure that serving temperatures are the same. This standard has been set and regularly accredited by Cask Marque, a non-profit organisation which was set up to improve standards in the cask beer community (and no I don't work for them, I currently live in Tokyo, Japan!) In future if you want a decent pint in the UK during the summer months (and lets face it, it doesn't get too hot over there!) I recommend looking for the cask marque plaque at the pub entrance or POS.
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